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PostSubject: I'm new.   Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:33 pm

Hello.

Domestic Statistics

Government Category: Democratic Socialists
Government Priority: Defence
Economic Rating: Frightening
Civil Rights Rating: Average
Political Freedoms: Average
Income Tax Rate: 100%
Major Industry: Arms Manufacturing
National Animal: Snow Leopard
National Currency: Niflmarke
Total Population: 1,177,900,000


Government Budget Details

Administration: $0.00 - 0%
Social Welfare: $0.00 - 0%
Healthcare: $1,889,688,513,323.52 - 5%
Education: $3,401,439,323,982.33 - 9%
Religion & Spirituality: $755,875,405,329.40 - 2%
Defence: $14,361,632,701,258.75 - 38%
Law & Order: $13,605,757,295,929.34 - 36%
Commerce: $2,267,626,215,988.22 - 6%
Public Transport: $1,511,750,810,658.81 - 4%
The Environment: $0.00 - 0%
Social Equality: $0.00 - 0%


Isis Rakael Economic Statistics

Exchange Rate: 1 Niflmarke = $1.6679
Gross Domestic Product: $37,821,810,015,449.27
GDP Per Capita: $32,109.53
Unemployment Rate: 2.55%
Consumption: $0.00
Government Budget: $39,368,510,694,240.01
Government Expenditures: $37,793,770,266,470.41
Goverment Waste: $1,574,740,427,769.60
Exports: $4,570,560,213,698.86
Imports: $4,542,520,464,720.00
Trade Surplus: $28,039,748,978.86







Military Numbers

Total Military Personnel: 35,337,000
Active Military Personnel: 13,428,060
Reserve Military Personnel: 21,908,940
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PostSubject: Re: I'm new.   Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:06 pm

Damn... Isis, did you grow?!

XDDDDD well, of course you are accepted and ready to RP. Go ahead and go to Department of Cartography and request for your plot in the map. And when you have stayed in the RP for about... 48 hours, let us know in the database request [here] and we will set you up with a database ^^

Meanwhile, I'll add your old statistics to the different places. I ASSUME that you want to keep your old innovations and such. So scramjet and orbital weapon is still yours (although KI is now working on getting that himself XDDDD)
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PostSubject: Re: I'm new.   Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:32 am

Hope he realizes the sheer cost.

I'll keep both of those innovations.

Thanks for the welcome, and yes, I did grow! By about $30 trillion (NS)/$3 trillion (RP) GDP. Thank you for noticing.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm new.   Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:00 am

Well... Ras has been mentioning that the cost isn't as ridiculous. However, I must say that in order for it to be better quality, more capital is necessary ^^... So I assume that KI's is inferior to yours.

Looking forward to your placement. And I hope you realize that the world politics have just changed XDDD
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PostSubject: Re: I'm new.   Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:02 pm

I think you'll find my placement entertaining - if it goes the way I think it will.

As for the cost issue... I've been hammering that since day 1. Glad to see you're finally coming around. Wink

Still, you are correct. The more capital, the better. And I've got a ton of capital.

I am still claiming that I am in possession of and have the ability to create nuclear weapons, as well as stealth technology for specific versions of my fighter jets.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm new.   Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:39 pm

Well... I did add you on aircraft carriers, nuclear weapons, and supersonic. I'll add you to stealth soon as well ^^

The only problem with cost issue is that recently E has been teaching ME a lesson in capital. So I guess I am not as perfect as I once thought I was. I should really reel in my own spending before accusing people of doing such ^^... although constant rant about how to run my economy despite the fact that I am currently well aware of the situation is getting a bit nosy...

Regardless, I guess you definition of entertaining is my version of dreadful... and if that is the case, I hope the case isn't the worst case scenario ^^;
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PostSubject: Re: I'm new.   Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:51 am

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So I assume that KI's is inferior to yours.

Ehem!

Are you familiar with Ipad and Samsung Galaxy tab?

Does Samsung know how Apple created the Ipad? NO. But Samsung still created a better version of Ipad, which is the Galaxy Tab.

Now, that what's happening here right now. I am creating a better version of space than that of Isis's.


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PostSubject: Re: I'm new.   Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:17 am

I am not basing this off of GX2 and iPhone4 analogy. I am basing this off of just how much capital is invested.

As you know, I am more of money person. More money invested, the better it should be. I usually don't count better engineers, technology, or luck into the calculation, because it gets complicated. .......... but even if I did... most likely Isis would get the bet because Isis's ridiculous population. More people would give him better chance that he will have some kind of genius. Just saying... China, with its immense population, does tend to have more "freaks" and "geniuses" than other nations. Same goes for US, which equally has good population. I do tend to talk about legacy, but neither Isis or KI had a mention-able space program before. The only ones that did in the previous RP was Grace, Ras, Hijima, and E. Others didn't seem to have wanting for space program.

So I will take it that KI and Isis had equal engineering feat... although Isis would protest otherwise. If that is the case, how much more capital was invested? Well... obviously, Isis invested a whole lot more. For him, even 10% of his defense budge is impressive amount of money. Meanwhile, KI... well, you have quite a bit of capital, but comparing your bucks with Isis is not usually a good thing.

If you want to create a better orbital, that would mean more spending. You probably cannot do that all on your own... you will have to talk it out with Ras and E. However, knowing that Isis is here... you can probably get them into a mutual funding. If that is the case, and both Isis and KI spends equal amounts of cash... I would say that you two might have equal amount... although... Isis did start the invention first, and thus he has somewhat of a lead in innovation (last I checked... he did have a working prototype in the orbit...)

But to be fair... Isis, I will probably have to have you starting with the launch again. Nothing personal, but since you did leave before... I assume that would mean that you were isolationistic. If that was the case, you probably wouldn't have something SUPER international-magnet like orbital bombardment system in the orbit. That would've created an uproar in RL. Therefore... you still have your prototype, but you will have to restart the launch procedure and the likes. This also gives you more time to explain how much you are investing into it... more legitimacy, the more power to ya.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm new.   Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:50 am

Also more expensive doesn't necessarily mean better quality.

KingIsaac's example of apple vs. samsung is an example of this, is also true with apple vs. windows products. Apple is notorious for having overpriced goods; it can cost twice as much for an apple computer with the same hardware as a generic PC, despite the fact that the hardware achieves the same results.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm new.   Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:59 am

Ras... then HOW exactly am I supposed to compare qualities of weapons?

On that subject... you constantly boast extremely powerful military products. However... if HESS simply claims that he has better, does that mean that he is stronger? No, because I evaluate it as "more invested = better quality."

There... really... isn't any real way for me to evaluate what is better that will please someone in EVERY situation. This... is RP. And sometimes, I don't have all the information I need to evaluate certain situations... or more like most situations.

So this is the system that I use. The more you have RPed it, the more you have invested into it without busting... the better it is. I also take into account about history. The longer it has been within possession, the better it is. And considering all those... Isis trumps KI in nearly every part. Isis certainly had this longer (I am importing from the other RP... although we hit refresh, the innovations are still within legacy imports), Isis certainly spent more on it, and Isis did do extensive RP about it. Although... it truly never finished that thread. The point is that I consider Isis's bombardment more powerful because of that.

If... you have any other factors I should look at... feel free to let me know. But... the whole thing about "expectations"... I have been saying this to E before and I'll say it now. I just cannot keep up with RL examples and situations. I mean... I am not master of chances and probability. I cannot sit in the forum crunching numbers to see what is better in multiple different examples. I simply follow my code of conduct that I have (more, better quality RP posts without busting my "econ senses" should be rewarded). I usually don't take account to RL examples... things... just get too complicated ^^;
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PostSubject: Re: I'm new.   Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:32 am

My goodness, Oscal.

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The longer it has been within possession, the better it is.

Do you mean the computers during 1950s are better than the computers today?

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PostSubject: Re: I'm new.   Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:57 am

I am saying... that the longer you have had the said invention, the longer you had to tinker with it... better improvements... more stable parts... the whole thing is more efficient than if you JUST invented it.

Using the computer example... the longer you knew that computers existed, the longer you would've tried to make it work better right? Eventually you would've went from vacuum tubes to transistors and then to GUI and such. That's what I am saying... not owning the 1950's antique.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm new.   Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:26 pm

A personal thing just to say "I'M SO SUPER AWESOME AND MORE POWERFUL THAN ISIS NOW!! HAHAHAH!!!!" or just an adolescent obsession with keeping your e-peepee larger than everyone elses in general? I can't tell, but it's not worth the fuss.

I don't mind folks having more powerful weaponry than I do. Most everyone has something better than I do. *shrug* If he wants to RP something better than I have it, then let him have at it. I have things in the works and will continue to research other items. I am, by far, the most nuclear nation in the world, so I might just stick with that, too. We shall see. Fun times.

Thank you, Oscal. But in this instance, appease the masses.

Or just ban orbital bombardment in its entirety.

And stop cluttering up my threads.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm new.   Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:00 am

Nonono.... that won't do.

My policy as SoC has ALWAYS been... the better you RP, the MORE you RP, the better your country is. I always gave handicaps to those of lesser nations, and I have always given benefit of doubts to those who attempt to reel in their spending. I will NOT condemn Isis, who has followed ALL the steps into getting a powerful weapon, while KI, who decided at the last second that he wanted orbital (original idea of KI's superweapon: antimatter) gets the same deal.

And since Isis has PLANNED this with me... as in he TGed me ASKING that if he should have it... so that it doesn't cause conflicts... have discussed the pros and cons of this weapon... managed the cost and capital necessary and have sacrificed... and then finally RPed in Domestic post and tried to RP with others... yeah...

Basically... I don't want to "appease the masses" because the "masses" wants my rules broken to benefit themselves at the cost of "minority" who have followed my rules. That's my bias, anyways. ^^;
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